The skinny:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jlhzoRPoTjgeV9vNrGXaMN2AUGLwD932MSBG0
MSNBC says Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor
By DAVID BAUDER
NEW YORK (AP) — MSNBC is replacing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as co-anchors of political night coverage with David Gregory, and will use the two newsmen as commentators.
The change reflects tensions between the freewheeling, opinionated MSNBC and the impartial newsgatherers at NBC News. Throughout the primaries and summer, MSNBC argued that Olbermann and Matthews could serve as dispassionate anchors on political news nights and that viewers would accept them in that role, but things fell apart during the conventions.
Gregory, the veteran Washington hand, will anchor MSNBC's coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates and election night, network spokesman Jeremy Gaines said Sunday. The change was first reported by The New York Times.
The tipping point appears to have come during the GOP convention when Olbermann criticized MSNBC for showing a Sept. 11-themed video prepared by the Republicans.
MSNBC executives, who had publicly defended their anchors' roles while privately monitoring them throughout the political season, made the change over the weekend after discussions with Olbermann. Despite the controversy around him, Olbermann has been a hero with left-leaning viewers and keyed MSNBC's growth among coveted young viewers.
During her acceptance speech last week, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin talked about the "Washington elite" not accepting her qualifications for the job. Some delegates on the convention floor began chanting, "N-B-C, N-B-C."
Olbermann began to have difficulty keeping his opinions in check, or simply stopped trying.
He sarcastically dismissed GOP pundit Pat Buchanan on the air after Buchanan said the Republicans had been enlivened by the entrance of a conservative Republican.
"Those reading US Weekly with the picture of her and her youngest daughter with the word `scandal' written across it won't be so happy," Olbermann said.
He expressed little sympathy at another point when GOP anger at rumors over the Internet about Palin were being discussed.
"We'll see if people feel sorry for unfounded rumors on the Internet," he said. "If that's the case, Senator Obama's probably standing up and cheering and waiting for people to feel sorry for him."
Perhaps most embarrassing, Joe Scarborough was discussing positive developments in John McCain's campaign at one point when Olbermann was heard on an offstage microphone saying: "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"
Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and host of MSNBC's "Morning Joe," got in another nasty on-air exchange with MSNBC reporter David Shuster, and Matthews snapped at Olbermann on-air when it appeared Olbermann was criticizing him for talking too much.
All the drama made MSNBC a punch line when top NBC anchor Brian Williams appeared on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" last week. "Is there no control?" host Jon Stewart asked him. "Is it Lord of the Flies?'"
A sheepish Williams said that every family has a dynamic of its own.
"But does MSNBC have to be the Lohans?" Stewart said.
Olbermann was in Denver during the Democratic national convention, but performed his co-hosting duties for the GOP convention in a New York studio. NBC President Steve Capus said the decision was not political, that Olbermann had been sent back to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav.
MSNBC's decision comes just before Olbermann's "Countdown" show is set to air, on
Monday, his interview with Barack Obama. That will put Olbermann in direct competition with his nemesis, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who interviewed Obama last week and is airing a portion of it Monday in the same 8 p.m. EDT time slot.
Bite the hand that feeds you, MSNBC. As Keith vocally proclaimed his opposition to the current admnistration, his (and the network's) ratings rose. This demotion, along with the double standard of righties spewing vitriolic hate and lefties criticizing the administration but the righties keeping their place within the "liberal media", is mind-boggling.
Nothing is more patriotic than dissent. Grow a spine, MSNBC.
6 comments:
I don't mind KO and CM having their opinions (or Bill O'Reilly for that matter). What I do mind, is the times they refer to themselves as "journalists" which, IMHO, they are not. As the article states, they are commentators. Commentator = opinions.
I also don't mind a news station or shows having political leanings, but for the people who don't follow politics regularly, maybe some form of disclaimers should be given.
Olbermann could say: "I'm a flaming liberal socialist who would rather lose a limb than actually acknowledge that not every conservative is an evil, poor people hating, bible thumping racist."
O'Reilly could say: I am just to the right of Rush Limbaugh. I have been told that not every liberal is a godless, baby killing, tree hugging hippie wacko, but I have yet to find one."
On you last note, I disagree. Just plain old dissent is not patriotic. Honest questioning of our government is patriotic. Many commentators from both sides should have that point clarified.
"Nothing is more patriotic than dissent."
I agree 100% with you Flash.
However....when said dissent is displayed by people who are paid to (I thought) accurately and (most importantly) impartially report the truth, that's where I have a problem.
What amuses me is that nearly ALL of my liberal friends seem to think that FOX News is some sort of ultra-right wing network secretly funded by some sort of black operation within the government.
In truth, as has been repeatedly proven, FOX is the most centrist network and "news" networks such as MSNBC are so skewed to the left that the "outlier" FOX naturally becomes the most conservative network by default.
What I love (and have ALWAYS loved...Reznorian and (Mrs.) Obamian feelings to the contrary) about this country is the freedom (is that still worth fighting for?) all of us have to express our opinions freely.
It's when people who are in position to abuse the trust of the citizens who look to them for impartial coverage of the facts use their positions to further their own political agenda.
Perhaps America is seeing through the overt left-leaning overtones on display when these anchors take the stage to report. Ratings for these networks consistently lag miles behind Fox. Could it be that people actually want the TRUTH?
Duke and Bones bring up interesting points.
Any journalist/commentator brings their own slant to the proceedings. That's common knowledge. George Will on ABC, Pat Buchanan on MSNBC, Campbell Brown on CNN. All appear on news shows, all display their right-leaning slant. It is what it is. It is undeniable. Hosts of, as Bones puts it, "news" programs such as Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly...they do not display slant? Bias? Political agenda? Don't be naive. The shoe is now on the other foot: Olbermann is as left-leaning as they come. Yet the righties cry foul and push to oust a lefty. Seems rather hypocritical, no? Righties spew their slant, lefties do as well and are deplored as communists or America-hating bastards.
The utterance "for the people who don't follow politics regularly" sadly reflects a vast majority of our populace. The soundbite takes on the role of gospel. How else does Joe Belt Buckle believe to his core that Barack Obama is Muslim, or that Michelle Obama is a militant, or that Obama is "less American" than McCain, etc.? And then these folks find it despicable that "elitists" label them as ignorant on the issues.
As far as Bones's comments go, we agree to disagree on opposite sides of the aisle. "However....when said dissent is displayed by people who are paid to (I thought) accurately and (most importantly) impartially report the truth, that's where I have a problem." As do I, see "Fox News".
"It's when people who are in position to abuse the trust of the citizens who look to them for impartial coverage of the facts use their positions to further their own political agenda." Surely you're not talking about Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, or Fox & Friends right?
"Could it be that people actually want the TRUTH?" One would hope, but a majority of Americans frankly want the easy way out, and digging for the truth sometimes hurts. Accept the mantra from on high and question not. After all, the current administration wouldn't lead us astray ever. Right? Surely what they spoonfeed us is truth.
Dissenting against the administration does not mean freedom is not loved to a lesser extent as party-line red staters. I posit that it means the dissenters love it MORE. Because we all know what a shithole this current administration has dug us into, and we long for the days when the beacon of freedom isn't so smudged. Love the country, disagree whole-heartedly with the assholes running it. Still, in the end, freedom is loved. I categorically reject any insinuance that this country is not loved by those who voice dissent. Categorically.
Additional thoughts:
Re: Reporting of the news, I was actually referrng to the "general" news coverage itself, not any one particular show that obviously has/could have personal bias built into it. I will not state that members of Fox News with their own shows (i.e., Lilly and O'Reilly, or Hannity) don't show their political leanings on their shows.
I agree nearly 100% that this current administration has been horrid. HOWEVER, and certainly IMHO, one of the main threats this nation faces (and will continue to face) is the threat of terrorism. When leaders of a religion are mandating that their followers wage holy war against America and its allies, we have to protect ourselves. And in the last election, the man I found most able to do that was Bush. Does that mean I like almost anything else about what the administration has done? No.
Am I sick and tired of the back-scratching, pork-laden legistlation passed by nearly everyone in office? Of course. Do I wish that "Joe Average" citizen would have a shot a making a difference by getting elected and getting back to when our elected officials actually worked for us? Yes.
In this era of virtually instant access to anything posted on the web, it truly does empower Joe Beltbuckle with a tremendous amount of information. Sadly, all it takes is for someone to post something, ANYTHING untruthful, and despite the fact that it can later be 100% proven false, that information is out there.
And I do wish that we could spark interest in more people to take an active role in electing not only the next POTUS but local officials as well.
Sadly, many Americans want to be spoonfed, caring not a tinker's cusp about the sad state of our world as long as they have American Idol each week. We accept what Washington does and assume (ignorantly) that they are better-equipped to handle decisions affecting each and every one of us. And, even more sadly, until enough people decide they've had enough and oust these elected officials, this trend will continue.
I'm welling up. That post was like buttah. I'm getting all verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves. We drive on a parkway and park on a driveway, discuss.
It's not the American Idol watchers that get to me. It's those damn followers of Dancing With the Stars. Those people have real issues.;)
Great comments, guys.
Love,
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